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Poster: Dhamma1 Date: Jul 22, 2010 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Jerry biopic in the works

Could go either way, don't you think?

http://www.nypress.com/blog-6914-jerry-garcia-biopic-in-the-works.html


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Poster: user unknown Date: Jul 23, 2010 3:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

If it could be done with the same level of honesty as "I Walk The Line" and "Ray", it would be well worth making. I'm not sure Jerry's "estate" would permit that. And finding an actor to pull it off would be tough. As good as Joaquin and Jamie were, respectively, neither could do Jerry. Let's just say that though I am skeptical about said bio-pic, I am less cynical than some.



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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

I'd take Vincent D'Onofrio as Jerry. He can put on weight for a role like nobody else (Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence in Full Metal Jacket) and he's already been Abbie Hoffman (Steal This Movie).

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

i hope it crashes and burns before it gets off the ground.
let him be that's what he wanted in the end anyway.fuck
hollywood.no way they can capture his true spirit in a two
hour period with a bunch of people who have know idea what
is was all about.i can see the cheese coming from a mile away
on this.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

"fuck hollywood"

exactly

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Poster: BornEasement Date: Jul 22, 2010 4:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

have you guys been to the cinema? Hollywood can do great things... and awful things. Scorsese? Coppola? Kubrick? Those (along with great rock bands like the Dead) are the 20th century's great artists that people in rising generations will actually have HEARD of. Painting, classical music and sculpture in the past thirty or forty years can't hold a candle, and for good reason.

And as for the inconsistency, some other artistic production processes come to mind when i say that... oh, i remember. all of them.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 23, 2010 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

I think Jerry would have wanted science fiction.

Of course, this being 2010, he'd also have to be 10 feet tall and blue, with bulging biceps, a guitar that shoots lasers and a line of action toys. "Garcia: Siren of Fightin'! Leaps Mountains of the Moon at a Single Bound!"

Which, come to think of it, might be exactly what he'd enjoy the most.

From reading the link, I give it a 5 percent chance of being halfway decent, and a 2 percent chance of being genuinely good. And that's a high rating, based mainly on having liked Little Miss Sunshine. (Speaking of which, perhaps that suggests another take on it ... Wacky band travels from coast to coast, having zany indie adventures in every town!)



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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 22, 2010 1:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Interesting folks involved. Anxious to see how they shoot the live concert stuff. If they do it similar to The Rose or a film like that it could be good.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Well I reckon if they have Jack Black as Garcia, Jennifer Aniston as young Weir and Yosemite Sam as older Weir, Robin Williams as Lesh, Bill Murray as Kreutzmann and Jackie Chan as Hart it might just work.

Oh yes, and Samuel L. Jackson as Pigpen.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

You put some excellent thought into those selections, Rob; outstanding. I would only suggest "Twiggy" as young Bob. And given his current fitness craze, perhaps Chuck Norris as aging Bob (just his beard? just his veins?).

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jul 22, 2010 10:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Double ouch ! You guys ate on to something !

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:23pm
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Double ouch. You guys are cruel!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 22, 2010 5:02pm
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Ha--I caught your ref the other day to the "vein thing" and I couldn't agree more...what price fitness, methinks?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 22, 2010 7:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Right, but it wasn't an "age" reference that I was making, though I suppose it read that way because I did say Bob looked old to me (at first; he definitely livened up over the course of the evening!) But I assumed the bulging veins probably came from the discontinuation of the steroids - same thing could happen to a younger guy, I assume.

Or maybe the bulging veins are a new look, I dunno. Gray hair is supposedly in style too; first time I heard this I couldn't believe it but I have since seen it with my own eyes - women in their twenties who have dyed a streak of hair silver. Please, this is very misguided!

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Jul 22, 2010 8:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Ring...I completely agree that women in their 20's should not be purposefully dying their hair gray...there is just something wrong with that. With that said, I am, as my husband so affectionately refers to me, "a gray haired old lady". Choosing to not dye my hair started out as an act of rebellion against my mom (yes, I'm still rebelious)...I also refuse to cut it short, even though I'm just over 40. It started out that way but it turns out that it looks pretty good on me...long, gray and black, thick and frizzy hair...it's kind of my signature.
I admire women who do dye their hair...I never have but it must be fun to change up how you look once in a while. I keep threatening to color my hair purple...if I were going to dye my hair, that would be the color of choice! Then my love would have to call me 'his purple haired old lady'...just doesn't have the same ring!
I say to each her own...except gray...that should be earned!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 23, 2010 5:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

>Ring...I completely agree that women in their 20's should not be purposefully dying their hair gray...there is just something wrong with that.

I have to admit though, it sometimes looks sharp on young women. Whole different effect on a 20 year old. But you just know, when they're older, they'll be amazed they ever thought this was a good idea.

I'm a bit gray myself and have never dyed it, always said I never would (feminist principles) but I admit I'm starting to toy with the idea ... it's partly rebellion and partly denial. Awhile back a new acquaintance told me she admired me for not dying away my gray hair and I just stared at her like "What gray hair?" 'cus I really just wasn't thinking I had a lot of gray hair. She meant well :)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 23, 2010 6:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

I have to say the white streak (which I assume is natural) always looked good on Bonnie Raitt - and for a woman in her 60s who is grey-haired and fabulous look no farther than Emmylou Harris.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 23, 2010 7:06am
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Or of course, like me, you could end up only being concerned with the grey hairs on your chin and your chest, given you only have a big shiny spot on your head that used to have something other than a hat on it...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 23, 2010 7:30am
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Hah! Yes, it's most dismaying to see what you really look like from the back when you still have sufficient at the front to fuel the self-delusion. Ah well, as my grandfather said, you can't grow grass on a busy highway.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 23, 2010 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Or Susan Sontag.
http://www.fernandovalero.com/susan%20sontag.jpg



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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 23, 2010 7:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Susan Sontag indeed.

Donna Jean Godchaux Mackay

donnajean_djttbobnweirsweetwater-45-4.jpg

and I just thought this was a sweet pic:

phil-donna_12-7-97.jpg

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 23, 2010 8:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

That is a sweet pic w/ Phil .

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:34pm
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Robin Williams is too hairy.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

1974%2BPhil%2Bbeard.jpg

jumanji2.large.jpg


Well maybe Williams might make a better Garcia...

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Poster: roughyed Date: Jul 23, 2010 2:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

That's Williams as Keith. He could double as Brent,too. Save money on the casting. And with a bit of digital trickery Sean Connery as both Weirs.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:56pm
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Keith!!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

I was thinking more of that fur coat of a body he has.

http://misterdiplomat.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/robin_williams_001_080706.jpg


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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 22, 2010 2:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Well done rob . Best laugh of the day .

What is it w/ the veiny arm look these days . I have seen it elsewhere on so called celebrities . Not flattering .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:24pm
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sheeeeeesh. It's called not being 25 anymore.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:39pm
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It must be my very slight padding that ' covers ' them up . Very slight .

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jul 22, 2010 3:23pm
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Jennifer Aniston as Weir -
OUCH.

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Poster: serious the dog Date: Jul 22, 2010 8:54pm
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Only one thing I want to say to anyone with this idea in their heads: GO AWAY.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 22, 2010 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Hello and welcome

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 23, 2010 6:58am
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i hope you've understood the ramifications of the name you've chosen, STD!

anyway, stick around.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jul 23, 2010 7:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry biopic in the works

Midnight Carousel wrote: "i cannot imagine this working. putting aside the obvious problems like "how could you possibly summarize garcia's life in a film," who the hell would play him? there is not an actor on earth, i think, whose portrayal of jerry garcia would not deeply offend anyone who knows what he was really like. it just seems insanely pointless to try."

My tendency would be to agree with you, Midnight...BUT let me just throw out this suggestion for an actor who really is good enough to do Garcia justice (and so, will probably NOT get the role):

Philip Seymour Hoffman.

If he got the role and really gave it his all, I believe we could get an excellent portrayal of Jerry.

Let me muse on the rest of the "dream-cast":

Bobby: Gordon Leavitt (3rd Rock from the Sun; Inception; Brick)

Phil: The guy who played Gareth on the original BBC version of "The Office."

Pigpen: Zack Gillifinakis

Mickey: Josh Brolin

Billy: Bill Murray

Keith: Alan Moore (OK, he's a comic book writer and not an actor...but he looks a lot like Keith did.)

Donna: Zoe Deschanel (altho' they'd have to alter her vocals to go from "on" to off-key.


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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 23, 2010 3:42pm
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I respect that - I suppose he would be the best choice I can think of, too. But I still would be extremely skeptical about his ability to pull it off, despite the fact that Hoffman is an excellent actor.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Jul 22, 2010 11:07am
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i cannot imagine this working. putting aside the obvious problems like "how could you possibly summarize garcia's life in a film," who the hell would play him? there is not an actor on earth, i think, whose portrayal of jerry garcia would not deeply offend anyone who knows what he was really like. it just seems insanely pointless to try.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 22, 2010 10:54am
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Hopefully it will do the man justice.I don't think he ever crosse paths with anyone that wasn't blown away - even genious heavyweights like Miles Davis and Bob Dylan.

And Greenfields Bio is one of my favorites. Seems the most honest to me - not hero worshipping or dwelling on just the dark stuff

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jul 22, 2010 12:57pm
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This film would aim for a wider audience than Deadheads, and would probably not please most of us here. They would have to come up with one basic story line and develop it through 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hours. The music, which I think most of us would say is of utmost importance, would definitely get shorted. As with any person who has lived for a half a century, there is no way that they could really capture that life in a way that would provide much satisfaction to anyone who really knows him or her. I doubt anyone here could put together a commercially succesful 2 hour movie about Jerry.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 22, 2010 1:41pm
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well they could focus 1.0 hours on the summer of love and 1 hour on his bottom of the barrel junkie years, .5 hours on the Touch of Grey explosion immediately followed by another half hour on him being a junkie again.

Kind of like Phil's book

DOH!

then use only Truckin and Touch for songs to satisfy the masses

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 22, 2010 11:41am
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Crash n' burn . Just my gut .

edit - Some things need time before they can be done properly . This is one of them . And it is not time .
This project could be the best thing since sliced bread , but I would not go . The images and stories in my head , and that we share , have no competition .

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Jul 22, 2010 11:19am
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I would be surprised if it gets filmed , and if it does , the compromises they might have to make to sell it . Well , "I walk the Line", yes , "The Doors" no .
Maybe as a screwball comedy,... I sure Jerry would have rather had that .

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jul 22, 2010 9:59pm
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I would hope for a quality movie, Something along the lines of the movie "Almost Famous" perhaps. A movie focusing on a single tour or time period of interest and great stories would work best I think. I would hope for at least a positive vibe out of the movie instead of some sort of cautionary tale about the dangers of drugs and living a high life...

Who should play Jerry though? Jack Black perhaps...

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Poster: turnphilup Date: Jul 22, 2010 1:09pm
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Phillip Seymour Hoffman could portray Jerry with good makeup. I would rather see a good Ken Burns style documentary on the whole band instead.